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Thursday, December 29, 2011

Far over the Misty Mountains cold...


Many of you have probably been listening to The Hobbit Trailer version of "Far over the Misty Mountains cold."  I like it, but it really drove me back to the Rankin/Bass The Hobbit soundtrack.  Am I the only person who thinks that is the best track from that soundtrack?  Or who actually prefers it to this new version?  I'd like to have the complete Tolkien lyric sung to the tune of the original soundtrack.  Heck, I'd like to get together with a group of guys and sing the whole song!

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  1. Honestly, neither sound right to me. Just not... Dwarvish. The new movie version sounds more Elvish or at least it sounds just like the music they used for Elvish songs in the LOTR trilogy. The Rankin/Bass version sounds too Medieval. I'd love someone to write music for this song that recognized the Jewish influence of the Dwarves. They have some incredible music.

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    1. I would love to hear that rewright if u could send it to my email please? S.hensley1993@gmail.com

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  2. Both are actually musically similar. My guess is the composer used the old version as a basis to write the new. You've heard of theme and variations? He basically created a variation on the original.

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  3. I have enough musical training to know about theme and variations and to not be surprised if you are correct, but not much more than that. If so, it has been assimilated to the musical style established for PJ's Middle Earth, but does not distinguish between cultures in the way, say, that armor and architecture were so carefully designed to do, so I see the point of Sarah's complaint.

    I'm not sure that the R/B version sounds particularly medieval to me. I would love for someone to find a medieval Jewish melody and fit the words to it and post it up for comparison!

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  4. The only other song that it is similar to in my opinion is the one Aragorn sings at his coronation, Elendil's/Elessar's Oath. However, that was merely something Elendil spoke as he left Numenor, and which Aragorn spoke in the novel. It was never music. In fact, I believe it was Viggo Mortensen's idea to set it to music. As for other songs, the one Pippin sings is more of a dirge and the one Eowyn sings is reminiscent of Gregorian chant. Very different styles. Does the overall music have a general similarity? Of course. But to my ear the songs do reflect varying styles.

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  5. do you happen to know who actually sings the "Far over the Misty Mountains cold." sing in "The Hobbit" trailer?

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  6. I am forced to believe that a lot of people don't release that the two songs up there were both in the book. The one from the new hobbit trailer was not based on the previous or anything like that. The one in the new hobbit trailer is in the first chapter, and as for the other... I don't remember.

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    1. actually they are both part of a very long poem of Tolkien's. what's ironic is the new version is the Beginning half of the poem; and the Rankin/Bass version is in the latter half.
      The new version sounds like something you'd want sung in a place with cavernous acoustics.

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    2. I think the new one used the first line or two of the first stanza and then skipped to half of a later stanza. I read the whole poem and they didn't just take one verse, they sort of picked through the lines and chose the ones that they liked best or were most dramatic. Or something.

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  7. I'm looking for similar songs to the Dwarves' song in the Hobbit trailer.. anybody have a clue what I should search for? I was thinking Baritone Hymns, but no luck there..

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  8. A woman covered the new Hobbit version of the song, except she sang all 27 verses: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME5urFBf0kk

    It doesn't sound dwarvish at all, but with that arrangement, harmonies, and voice, I'd listen to her singing every line of orcish dialogue in the legendarium.

    I don't believe you can compare the two versions directly: the Rankin-Bass version sounds much more natural, but it's also arranged to fit its part of the song, triumphal and warlike. The Hobbit trailer version only includes the grim beginning, so it should sound sadder, but I agree that it doesn't make me think of dwarves. It's been a while since I've watched Jackson's FotR: does he completely cut Gimli's poem in Moria ("The world was young, the mountains green")?

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